July 29, 2012 1:48 PM
Gay marriage debate opt out no longer an optionThought-provoking. Taking a stand comes at a great personal cost. There are those who will never understand the concept of loving the sinner and hating the sin. They will never understand that most believers are very well aware that they can't claim any moral superiority, that all have sinned and fallen short.
I can only suggest that if you are in the closet on this issue because of fear, please at least pray for and support those on the front lines. It isn't easy. . . .
Opt out of the gay marriage debate? That's no longer an optionOwen Strachan Posted on Jul 23, 2012
But some of this discussion has been deeply harmful. Why? Because there is a desperate need for the church to be the church in this fallen world. Now is not the time to back off from a robust cultural ethic. Now is the time to engage.
Some still think that they have the luxury of sitting out the national debate over homosexuality. They think, "Well, the battle over marriage is for those frothy-mouthed Christians who send out the weird newsletters and are always sounding the doomsday bell. I don't really have the stomach for that; I don't want, after all, to be weird, or unliked, or out of tune with The New York Times and NPR crowd. I'm educated and above the fray. Culture wars, as I've come to understand from the media, are for hillbillies and fear mongers, the God-and-country set. Nope. No thank you."
Others are more biblical in their convictions, but still think they can opt out of the conflict over marriage and homosexuality. They think, "I don't want my Christianity to be political. The church should do what the church does. I'll sit this one out, as I usually do, and go on my way, trusting in a sovereign God."
Both positions suffer from a common flaw: lack of moral realism as it relates to our cultural moment. You see, there is not going to be an "opt out" option in the coming days. Actually, let's change that -- there no longer is an "opt out" option. The conflict over homosexuality and marriage is here to stay. It's only going to pick up steam. Barring a miracle from God, the clock will not be turned back. Most every Christian in every place in America is going to face a direct, confrontational challenge on this issue. You can't escape this.
Do you see this? It's different from abortion, which everyday Christians didn't have to really get involved with. Because abortion happens behind closed doors in nondescript clinics, Christians like you and me could pretend it didn't happen. We could occasionally pray, and occasionally give and serve, but because this menace was unseen, we didn't have to get whipped up about it. We could leave that to "weird," "in-your-face" Christians, whom we might subtly demean for their outspokenness.
But things have changed. I just learned on Facebook that gay pride groups marched in my hometown of Machias, Maine (and other Maine towns). Machias is a tiny coastal town. It's a long ways from Manhattan, culturally speaking. But just a few weeks ago, in the Fourth of July parade, a group of gay and lesbian supporters marched, just as they did in numerous other small Maine towns.
I'll ask this again: Do you get what's happening? This is a Fourth of July parade. Over the years, there's been no more "safe" cultural event for Americana. Everyone cheers the Shriners, the small-but-vigorous community band, the fire department as it blares its siren and throws candy to skittering children. Everyone. But that all, in a flash, changed in Machias, Maine. Here's what I can guess: This will happen all across America.
Read more at Baptist Press
The worst are the ones who claim to be Christians but support gay marriage. They claim that God is love, etc.
Read the Bible, people!
Posted by: Sandra | July 29, 2012 6:11 PM
This commentary by Owen Strachan, "Opt out of the gay marriage debate? That's now longer an option"
expresses much of my own observations over a period of years. The homosexual movement and their aligned cultural and political liberal forces will continue to push their agenda. They will not be satisfied until they have completely altered or destroyed conservative Christian institutions and churches. It is past time to push back in various ways on various fronts.
Posted by: Watchtower | July 29, 2012 6:33 PM
I'm a random visitor by way of the co-sleeping cartoon.
I have to admit that as a non-Christian (but with plenty of past exposure to church and with an affinity for the loving nature of Jesus), I am completely baffled by Mr. Strachan's opinion. I understand how he thinks his world is threatened, but I don't understand how he thinks abortion can be tolerated but homosexuality cannot. So he can ignore it if he sees no evil? I understand that according to Christianity, it is up to God to judge sins, but obviously we on earth have varying degrees of attention and punishment for different human activities. Would Mr. Strachan really pour more effort into stopping a gay pride parade than into stopping abortion? Consenting adults vs babies?
Posted by: Melissa | July 30, 2012 12:20 AM
While reading Animal Farm to my girls yesterday, I came across if I remember right "they had come to a time when no one dared speak out ,snarling dogs surrounded them and they watched as their comrades were torn to pieces after confessing terrible crimes" I am on the fence lately to know whether to confess my terrible crime of believing and saying I believe in marriage just the way it says in the bible ,seeing I am a Christian.However the snarling dogs are around and we see how peoples lives get torn apart for being so evil as to believe in God the Bible and Traditional Christianity , my 16 year old is more brave than I as she said it out loud in a class at school, where she found she was the only one who believed that way...when the teacher asked her why she believed that way my daughter said because "it is right and true" and then she said the teacher smiled and winked at her..LOL
Posted by: karen | July 30, 2012 5:23 AM
Melissa - thanks for visiting and for taking the time to leave a comment.
Mr. Strachan certainly never said that homosexuality was worse than abortion or that Christians shouldn't actively oppose abortion.
What he said was that many Christians have never had to take a public stand on abortion because it has not touched their lives directly and pervasively the way that gay marriage has.
Posted by: Barbara | July 30, 2012 9:13 AM
I'm wondering if Amazon's support of gay marriage will make you rethink your affiliation? It seems like an easy stand to take.
Posted by: Rachel | July 31, 2012 4:42 PM
Answered here: http://mommylife.net/archives/2012/07/boycotts_what_d.html
Posted by: Barbara | July 31, 2012 6:51 PM
This is a response to a recent Facebook debate I was thrown into. This is my post. I believe it sums up the stance of Christians and I wish I could broadcast it to the world! Prior to the comment I was told that Marriage was a term made up by Man and not God, and that I was a bigot...
Me: Firstly, the term Marriage aka Holy Matrimony was created by God on the 6th day of CREATION in the book of Genesis. It is a gift from God of his grace and promise and guaranteed assistance by the Holy Spirit given to a Man as a husband
and a woman as a wife to be able to cope, to forgive, and to bear fruit (have children). It is a SACRAMENT ordained by God, not a state of nature ( which is what non-believers are trying to make it). It is a state of Grace, a gift from the Holy Spirit being conferred in the SACRAMENT of Holy Matrimony. It is a mystical union of husband and wife as reflecting the mystical union of Christ with his church. A Sacrament is something that can NEVER be changed by a man or a government, but only by God himself. Most churches have 7 Sacraments. Inclusive across most denominations and beliefs, including Judaism, Mormonism, some forms of Buddhism, and even some forms of Chinese theology.. This is the area where many religions agree, although the number of sacraments, and their meaning are different, but yet still most at least coincide with the Old Testament and the Creation of Man and have been in place for 2012 years (thus the calendar system). I, along with billions of people in our world were raised with this knowledge, definition, Baptism into it ( another Sacrament) and the core family values for which It represents. I also choose to raise my own children with what I, and many others consider to be a gift of this knowledge and blessing from God to our lives. Because many people were not raised in this fashion, does not make US wrong, nor bigots, but perhaps could be the case with those who are trying to force us to change our views or beliefs which run through to our very core being. What you are asking for is for us to forget what we who have these beliefs do is forget it all and follow a belief of Nature or Man. This is the basis for many religious wars from the beginning of time, the reason for Christian Martyrdom ( a refusal to deny one's own God) and the very same reason this country was formed by our Christian forefathers, so we as Christians would have the CIVIL RIGHT to practice our religion as we believe. But yet, because we ARE a loving compassionate and tolerant group of people, we have extended to same favor to people of other religions to be able to practice their faith as well, with the guarantee of safety from warfare. That is the core foundation of the Constitution of this Country. It is my CIVIL RIGHT to believe as such. Just because others who have not decided to become informed of this , or teach their own children this fact does not constitute bigotry on our behalf but perhaps from those who are trying to strip us of our CIVIL RIGHTS. If this makes me a bigot in your eyes, then so be it, but then cannot I say the same of you?? I however DO NOT HATE, BUT I DO TOLERATE the civil rights of a same sex civil union, but in my religion, it can never be the Sanctity of Marriage. That is why.
BIGOTRY definition: a person obstinately devoted to his or her own opinions, or treats a group of people with hatred or intolerance.
Posted by: Annie | August 3, 2012 8:42 AM